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as for congressman paul ryan, he's just gushing about the president's skills. >> president obama's a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. the man's been on the national stage for many years, he's an experienced debater. he's done these kinds of debates before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> forget my running mate. the president's the guy to watch but not everyone agrees. >> i know folks in the media are speculating already on who's going to have the best zingers. i don't know about that. you know, who's going to put the most points on the board. >> you are. no, no, governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. >> so they are praising each other. but something tells me we won't see too many compliments on that stage tonight. joining me now is rick stengle, editor of "time"'s magazine called, who is telling the truth, the fact war. what does governor romney need to do tonight, in your opinion? >> one of the things he needs to do is to seem presidential. one of the things that folks haven't been talking about is if you go back to reagan/carter in 1980, what
as for congressman paul ryan, he's just gushing about the president's skills. >> president obama's a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. the man's been on the national stage for many years, he's an experienced debater. he's done these kinds of debates before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> forget my running mate. the president's the guy to watch but not everyone agrees. >> i know folks in the media are speculating already on who's going to have the best...
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. >> the middle class was buried by the policies of romney and ryan supported. >> republicans like rubio are off to the races. >> those happen to be the words that the distinguished vice president of the united states mr. joe biden. no, don't boo. he is the best thing we've got going, guys. >> reporter: now denver has always been big for this president. in 2008 is where he launched the hope and change in front of the great columns of the democratic convention. 2009. this is where he signed the stimulus in law. tonight, he puts it all on the line trying to make his case for a second term. bret? >> bret: ed, thank you. experts will tell you the challenger often gets a slight bump in the polls after the first debate by standing next to the president. romney is hoping for that and more as he takes half the spotlight tonight. chief political correspondent carl cameron has that part of the story. >> reporter: romney prepared for weeks. 57% for the latest gallup poll think the president will win the debates to only 33% for romney on this evening main topic the economy economy, romney has an edg
. >> the middle class was buried by the policies of romney and ryan supported. >> republicans like rubio are off to the races. >> those happen to be the words that the distinguished vice president of the united states mr. joe biden. no, don't boo. he is the best thing we've got going, guys. >> reporter: now denver has always been big for this president. in 2008 is where he launched the hope and change in front of the great columns of the democratic convention. 2009. this...
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ryan. >> steve s there anything they can do tonight or mr. romney can do to really push that needle, particularly in the swing states? >> i think there are two things to look at here. the problem for romney is this, he is constrained in very serious ways in a form like this where his party is. president republican party in response to obama's election moved fartherer to the right. there are demands from republicans, if you are mitt romney and you're going to be specific on the issues, there are demands you articulate an extremely conservative -- >> i'm sorry to interrupt you. on alter things romney will do that, he'll swing back to the middle on the economy, swing back to the middle on immigration. you think he won't? >> he can do that in broad strokes. i think he's very good at that. the question is then this, what does barack obama or what does jim lehrer do as the moderator. he will anticipate a broad strokes vision about his tax plan. then the question becomes, how do you pay for it? you're going to cut taxes for everybody. it's going to
ryan. >> steve s there anything they can do tonight or mr. romney can do to really push that needle, particularly in the swing states? >> i think there are two things to look at here. the problem for romney is this, he is constrained in very serious ways in a form like this where his party is. president republican party in response to obama's election moved fartherer to the right. there are demands from republicans, if you are mitt romney and you're going to be specific on the...
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about -- >> of course paul ryan isn't the candidate for president. >> paul ryan will get his chance. >> if you endorsed budget, please explain to us how that works. >> well, at least there's a budget. >> he was for and then against it. >> so how should romney answer? our debate all this week has been your argument is he should avoid substance at all costs. so how should romney answer her question then? >> the good news is that the rules don't allow him to speak more than a few seconds. >> actually, two minutes i think. >> so move on to the next issue, the next issue. we're looking for details. you are not going to get details tonight. >> let's be clear, there's 15-minute segments. they have two minutes to respond to the question and then jim lehrer's going to narrate the back and forth. there should be enough time. >> one thing i want to say though is that this is going to be for a bunch of young americans their first chance to vote. a lot of the young americans didn't watch the conventions, they had summer vacation. now they're going to be tuning in. what i think they should be talk
about -- >> of course paul ryan isn't the candidate for president. >> paul ryan will get his chance. >> if you endorsed budget, please explain to us how that works. >> well, at least there's a budget. >> he was for and then against it. >> so how should romney answer? our debate all this week has been your argument is he should avoid substance at all costs. so how should romney answer her question then? >> the good news is that the rules don't allow him...
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and, in fact, paul ryan's 10 and 25% plan basically hit the same revenue and same distribution as the current tax code. this is totally doable. i give romney credit for moving in the right direction here, but he should be bolder, like paul ryan's house plan. >> the other issue is -- the ultimate goal here is to create economic growth, right? >> right. >> dave, if you were to see these tax cuts actually lead to economic growth, lead businesses to create jobs, do you get there the other way, through economic growth and job creation? isn't that the ultimate goal? >> yeah, but maria, look, it's tough to create economic growth. you whack the home mortgage interest deduction and the housing sector takes a hit. whack the employer health insurance deduction, and the health sector takes a hit. >> but you're lowering taxes for corporations and individuals. doesn't it mean those people most likely and those companies most likely will be putting money back into the economy to create jobs and to create consumer spending? i was looking at the ultimate goal here. so, you know, is that where he's goi
and, in fact, paul ryan's 10 and 25% plan basically hit the same revenue and same distribution as the current tax code. this is totally doable. i give romney credit for moving in the right direction here, but he should be bolder, like paul ryan's house plan. >> the other issue is -- the ultimate goal here is to create economic growth, right? >> right. >> dave, if you were to see these tax cuts actually lead to economic growth, lead businesses to create jobs, do you get there...
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>> well, i think you have to give mitt romney and paul ryan a great deem of credit. they are consistently ar r lyco matically wrong. they can't decide how much of the population should be treated with contempt, 47 or 30 sisters in a real numbers had problem amongst these guys that is why tonight is exciting because mitt romney has got to explain to us tonight how -- how the math works on a budget that proclaims a reduction in everyone's taxes by 20%. how does he do that, okay, alongside never raising any revenues and not telling us which deductions and loopholes he map plans to close. >> however, the balance of that is the president will also have to answer questions, how will he or 1,000 new science and math teachers been added to the rolls? how will 1 million more manufacturing jobs, that's cup one of the counter questions that the president will answer perhaps tonight as well. >> you could say the answer to that question was the americas jobs act stopped in congress and posed by republicans, which as you know, would have created almost 2 million jobs and by some e
>> well, i think you have to give mitt romney and paul ryan a great deem of credit. they are consistently ar r lyco matically wrong. they can't decide how much of the population should be treated with contempt, 47 or 30 sisters in a real numbers had problem amongst these guys that is why tonight is exciting because mitt romney has got to explain to us tonight how -- how the math works on a budget that proclaims a reduction in everyone's taxes by 20%. how does he do that, okay, alongside...
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. >> so, again, just context for our viewers that was paul ryan, this is a speech from last november. the whole speech has been on youtube since last fall. so my question to you, howie kurtz, are there really substantive points to be scored here by drudging up these all videos? >> there can be. i don't have any problem with it, people on either side drudging up old videos. it helps if the video you're drudging up has never been seen or heard before, then it has some shock value. there can be substantive and revealing comments in what people say when they think the spotlight is not on them. but in the case of this particular obama speech at hampton university in virginia in 2007, he delivered it in front of a bunch of reporters. cameras there. the surprise factor has been lost here. >> you covered the media. as we mentioned it right wing radio, right wing conservative television today, pointing at the -- it is the mainstream media, this is all the mainstream media, my question is, their ratings are high, they bring in the big bucks, aren't they mainstream media too? when does that narr
. >> so, again, just context for our viewers that was paul ryan, this is a speech from last november. the whole speech has been on youtube since last fall. so my question to you, howie kurtz, are there really substantive points to be scored here by drudging up these all videos? >> there can be. i don't have any problem with it, people on either side drudging up old videos. it helps if the video you're drudging up has never been seen or heard before, then it has some shock value....
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web video this morning, you played paul ryan's comments. you know, i don't -- if president obama and his campaign team had a choice, i think they would rather joe biden not have used that phrase in relation to the last four years. that said, i think the life cycle of a gaffe now, andrea is so small it kind of rises up and becomes a huge thing for 15 minutes or one day, and then it disappears. my guess is, at 9:01 p.m. tonight when the debate starts, this will not be as big a deal and there will be new things to talk about, new issues to digest, again, not a great moment for joe biden and clearly one the white house would have rather he not have said. i just don't know that, you know, in two weeks time we're talking about it. >> all right. we'll see what -- whether there's a new gaffe or two or three to replace that one tonight. thank you very much. see you later. joining me in denver, stephanie cutter, deputy campaign manager for the president's re-election effort. where were you when you heard joe biden yesterday? >> i don't remember. beca
web video this morning, you played paul ryan's comments. you know, i don't -- if president obama and his campaign team had a choice, i think they would rather joe biden not have used that phrase in relation to the last four years. that said, i think the life cycle of a gaffe now, andrea is so small it kind of rises up and becomes a huge thing for 15 minutes or one day, and then it disappears. my guess is, at 9:01 p.m. tonight when the debate starts, this will not be as big a deal and there will...
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. >> as long as we're talking about troublesome videos this clip of congressman paul ryan weighing in on the makers and the takers rose to the surface last night as well. >> before too long we could become a society we were never ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers not makers. 70% of americans get more benefits from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. so you could argue that we're already passed that tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center right 70/30 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe in the american idea. only 30% want the welfare state. >> which video is more sensat n sensational? more of a game-changing contest modifier. joining us from the site of tonight's debate in denver is the man who knows from game change, emmy darling, "time" magazine and msnbc senior political analyst whose publication is out with an issue today, who's telling the truth, the fact wars. mark halperin, i've been trying to find
. >> as long as we're talking about troublesome videos this clip of congressman paul ryan weighing in on the makers and the takers rose to the surface last night as well. >> before too long we could become a society we were never ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers not makers. 70% of americans get more benefits from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. so you could argue that we're already...
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one from the right on president obama and one from the left on paul ryan. will either have an impact? al sharp top is going to join me. plus, joe biden a sex symbol? i'm going to talk to politico's -- they're dancing on the set. we're going to talk about this with jonathan allen, who says vice president biden is bringing sexy back to the medicare crowd and what do you think? we want to hear from you. do you think one of the candidates will deliver a knockout punch? you can tweet me and we'll get some of your responses. i can't believe you're missing chris and joy dancing. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. >>> on the day of the presidential debate, two tapes from the past are creating talking points on both sides of the aisle. from the right, a 2007 tape that news organizations including nbc covered during the 2008 campaign of barack obama
one from the right on president obama and one from the left on paul ryan. will either have an impact? al sharp top is going to join me. plus, joe biden a sex symbol? i'm going to talk to politico's -- they're dancing on the set. we're going to talk about this with jonathan allen, who says vice president biden is bringing sexy back to the medicare crowd and what do you think? we want to hear from you. do you think one of the candidates will deliver a knockout punch? you can tweet me and we'll...
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who would have the upper hand, biden or ryan, paul ryan of wisconsin according to our poll. so something a little extra i just gave you there, not just tonight's debate, i'm looking ahead to next week. >> paul ryan will not be saying who am i and why am i here? he is plenty well known out there. >> i guarantee you, yes. >> let's talk about the issues. a lot of times the horse race takes over the headlines and the distractions as they're called by critics. but what are the voters saying when we call them and we ask them the pointed questions about the actual issues who is winning on the issues alone? >> on the economy, which is the most important issue in the minds of americans, basically divided on this. look at this. you mentioned there are six segments tonight, three on the economy, that's probably right. what is most important issue for americans, look at that, still remains the economy. 48%. ashleigh, the economy is number one with american voters going back to late 2007. that has not changed. you know what, also tonight, the role of government will be one of those six s
who would have the upper hand, biden or ryan, paul ryan of wisconsin according to our poll. so something a little extra i just gave you there, not just tonight's debate, i'm looking ahead to next week. >> paul ryan will not be saying who am i and why am i here? he is plenty well known out there. >> i guarantee you, yes. >> let's talk about the issues. a lot of times the horse race takes over the headlines and the distractions as they're called by critics. but what are the...
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he said the middle-class had been buried by policies supported by romney in ryan. can he walk it back successfully? was a just an awful gas? >> at think it's pretty bad. the language is clear and unambiguous. governor romney can and i dare say should say and tell biden acknowledged that the middle-class was. because of your policies. was to you to that? stuart: it's an opening. >> a real opening. stuart: our next door. in numbers and government dependency. 36 percent are on at least one major welfare program. now another, only less than 1% of applications that come into the country or rejected on the grounds of the applicant might becoming dependent on the government. that is 7,000 out of 10 million rejected because they might become dependent. 36 percent have some dependency on the gunman. to the extraordinary numbers. let me jump in for a second before you even start. you can't -- you can keep anybody you like out of the country. you can limit entry to any group like because the constitution allows us to do that, doesn't it? >> yes and no. the issue of limiting p
he said the middle-class had been buried by policies supported by romney in ryan. can he walk it back successfully? was a just an awful gas? >> at think it's pretty bad. the language is clear and unambiguous. governor romney can and i dare say should say and tell biden acknowledged that the middle-class was. because of your policies. was to you to that? stuart: it's an opening. >> a real opening. stuart: our next door. in numbers and government dependency. 36 percent are on at least...
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paul ryan says i don't have time to explain the budget plan. i think laird is going to be the interesting character. >> and lynn, the other side of the voters are sitting in jefferson county. what do you think they're trying to hear tonight that's going to put them off the fence? >> i think what they're looking for is an answer on the economy. will this make me decide this way or that way? and of course, the famous flubs. >> governor, i want to put a question. you were just saying, last time you were on my show, we had this conversation about democracy and how it's hard to ever take things away in a democracy. how would you ask that question to the candidates? >> what's the public capacity for pain? i'm old fashioned. i think the campaign should discuss big issues. democracy's not going to survive if we don't. we're boar reing 41 cents out of every dollar we spend. that can't end well. more taxes or less spending and we're not even discussing it in a political olympics here. >> can't even raise it. >> as you put it, how do you downsize democrac
paul ryan says i don't have time to explain the budget plan. i think laird is going to be the interesting character. >> and lynn, the other side of the voters are sitting in jefferson county. what do you think they're trying to hear tonight that's going to put them off the fence? >> i think what they're looking for is an answer on the economy. will this make me decide this way or that way? and of course, the famous flubs. >> governor, i want to put a question. you were just...
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but, ana, paul ryan wasted no time, seizing on those comments. good strategy? >> look, you know, i love joe biden. i don't know how every republican in america doesn't love joe biden. he is a great guy. he's fun. he is the gift that keeps on giving. i miss joe biden. we hadn't heard a gaffe from good old joe in about two or three weeks. it really had been a long time. this is what the campaigns are like today in 2012, unfortunately. we look for gaffes on each other and try to make them real big. i think when joe starts getting earnest, when he starts getting righteous and starts talking about god, watch out, because a zinger is coming out. >> speaking of zingers, the debate spoet supposedly is going to be all about zingers. i can see mitt romney taking that line. i would. maria? >> the problem with that, though, carol, is that if you know joe biden and what he has done in his career, he has actually been one of the strongest spokespersons for the middle class and for working americans. and if you look at what he said, if you look at it in context, he clearly is
but, ana, paul ryan wasted no time, seizing on those comments. good strategy? >> look, you know, i love joe biden. i don't know how every republican in america doesn't love joe biden. he is a great guy. he's fun. he is the gift that keeps on giving. i miss joe biden. we hadn't heard a gaffe from good old joe in about two or three weeks. it really had been a long time. this is what the campaigns are like today in 2012, unfortunately. we look for gaffes on each other and try to make them...
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later in the day he tried to wash it back saying the middle class has been buried by the policies which ryan and romney supported. that's how the day ended. what percentage of the policies the president says he's been working this hard on, the policies he's running or reelection on put the middle class in the position that they are in. >> reporter: that's a value judgment. that's an opinion. the president says he's only responsible for 10% of the accumulated debt during his presidency. he blames bush for the accumulated debt prior to his presidency and during this presidency. obama tried to blame bush and his predecessors for the predicament of the middle class. jamie: tonight is the debate and the economy will be front and center. would you expect the president to admit any of this policies did not work? >> reporter: i would expect the president would deflect attention away from his record. if if you ask where is the middle class going next year after the election, you have -- i would say that the middle class is going to get maybe even worse off because we look like we are head for a real
later in the day he tried to wash it back saying the middle class has been buried by the policies which ryan and romney supported. that's how the day ended. what percentage of the policies the president says he's been working this hard on, the policies he's running or reelection on put the middle class in the position that they are in. >> reporter: that's a value judgment. that's an opinion. the president says he's only responsible for 10% of the accumulated debt during his presidency. he...
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mitt romney's proposed with paul ryan an ambitious reformation of the program that would go to voucher, but he hasn't said what the level of the voucher would be or the growth rate in the voucher. if you don't specify that, you can't specify what your savings will be or the impact on consumers. and finally president obama last year in the grand bargain talks with house speaker boehner talked about more ambitious proposals than medicare than he's advocated so far like raising the eligibility age from 65 to 67. hasn't said a word about that in the election campaign so far. you can expect the two to clash on that issue, as well. >> john, i know you've looked at some poll numbers from the journal and nbc news. maybe a slight tightening on a national level. but certainly in some important states like ohio, the president continues to lead. i know you've said the romney strategists believe they need ohio. if it's mathematically possible to win without it, why do they still believe they need it? >> well, because if you don't win ohio, you're probably not going to win, say, wisconsin, which is
mitt romney's proposed with paul ryan an ambitious reformation of the program that would go to voucher, but he hasn't said what the level of the voucher would be or the growth rate in the voucher. if you don't specify that, you can't specify what your savings will be or the impact on consumers. and finally president obama last year in the grand bargain talks with house speaker boehner talked about more ambitious proposals than medicare than he's advocated so far like raising the eligibility age...
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ones that romney and ryan want to go back to. but criticism of what's happened to the middle-class over the last four years is one that ryan and romney jumped on. >> matthew dowd, what is a win for each candidate tonight? >> mitt romney has to show up and be confidenpassionate and connect with the audience. but really, he has to put the president on the defensive. he needs to turn this race into a referendum on the president. >> and the president? >> i think the president's all about his mannerisms and his style at this point. i think he can't come across as irritable. he can't come across as impatient. he has to act that he wants to be there, maybe with a lot of smyt smiles. he can't come off out of touch. >> do you think the moderator, jim leher comes up? >> i think mitt romney would make a mistake if he brought it up. >>> let's get to josh elliott and the rest of the morning headlines. >> we're going to get to the desperate scene in northwest minnesota. half of a town forced to flee as wildfires threatened homes there. heavy w
ones that romney and ryan want to go back to. but criticism of what's happened to the middle-class over the last four years is one that ryan and romney jumped on. >> matthew dowd, what is a win for each candidate tonight? >> mitt romney has to show up and be confidenpassionate and connect with the audience. but really, he has to put the president on the defensive. he needs to turn this race into a referendum on the president. >> and the president? >> i think the...
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. >> but people thought that would slow people that the choice of ryan would scare people. >> he's up in all the polls with people over 65, though. >> right. but senior citizens are the strongest element of romney's coalition. doing very well with them right now. >> john, i know that every day as we get closer to the election, we need things to talk about, and the polls are all we have. how many people was this, 849 or something? what's the number? >> you talking about the national poll? >> yeah, either one. >> in the swing state polls, we do 1,300 registered voters. >> doesn't matter what the actual numbers are. i remember taking statistics, so i understand standard -- i understand how they try to make it scientific. but you know what i'm saying. you take any 900 people at any given tile and you think about 200 million people, whatever it is, but then we microanalyze the moist minute details because that's what we do as journalists. i can give you polls -- i saw a poll last week that had -- it was plus-four for the president, and then another one was down six. it was an individual st
. >> but people thought that would slow people that the choice of ryan would scare people. >> he's up in all the polls with people over 65, though. >> right. but senior citizens are the strongest element of romney's coalition. doing very well with them right now. >> john, i know that every day as we get closer to the election, we need things to talk about, and the polls are all we have. how many people was this, 849 or something? what's the number? >> you talking...
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paul ryan speaking about a moral tipping point in united states, six months before romney's 47% remark. >> before too long we could become a society we were never, ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers, not makers. today 70% of americans get more benefit from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. you could argue that we're already past that tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center right 70/0 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe the american idea. only 30%en watt their welfare state. what that tells us is at least half of those people currently in that category are there not of their wish or their will. >> ryan's comment were part of the keynote address at a gala dinner hosted by the american spectator. that was in november 201, ten months ago, well before he was considered to be a vice presidential running mate. >>> a pennsylvania judge will let voters go to the polls without photo i.d., upholding a controversial
paul ryan speaking about a moral tipping point in united states, six months before romney's 47% remark. >> before too long we could become a society we were never, ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers, not makers. today 70% of americans get more benefit from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. you could argue that we're already past that tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after...
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and paul ryan declaring that 70% of the americans want the american dream. the others want the welfare state. the question is do either of these impact the way voters view these two men? >>> and some
and paul ryan declaring that 70% of the americans want the american dream. the others want the welfare state. the question is do either of these impact the way voters view these two men? >>> and some
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here's how paul ryan responded. >> i thought he was taking my speech. you know what? we agreed these are being buried by obama care and spending regulations and all things plaguing a business. the way to stop this is to stop this. >> the middle class has been buried for four years. who is to blame? >> that little exchange we saw encapsulates the challenge for president barack obama tonight. he has to defend his record, he's got to take credit for the good things that have happened. i do think the country is headed in the right direction as i think most americans do, but i think he has to acknowledge how the experience is of real americans enough. not only on economic issues but he's not changing the tone in washington, which he's set out to do. i think the president also has to say what to do differently in the next four years. each of these men have to make a case of themselves and articulate the vision they have for the next four years otherwise they won't have a successful evening. >> there's trouble for biden in a new poll. a cnn/orc poll to put up for everyone. 6
here's how paul ryan responded. >> i thought he was taking my speech. you know what? we agreed these are being buried by obama care and spending regulations and all things plaguing a business. the way to stop this is to stop this. >> the middle class has been buried for four years. who is to blame? >> that little exchange we saw encapsulates the challenge for president barack obama tonight. he has to defend his record, he's got to take credit for the good things that have...
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." >> jimmy: pro, paul ryan will be in the audience trying to lend his support. con, joe biden will be in the audience trying to start a wave. [ laughter ] "joe, sit down. don't --" "boo! come on, guys. this section sucks." [ laughter ] pro, the first debate will be wednesday at 9:00 p.m. con, right after an all-new "guys with kids," every wednesday at 8:30 only on nbc. ♪ "from the zany mind of jimmy fallon." and finally, pro, all the campaigning, the attack ads, the political bickering has led up to this moment. con, and yet we still have to wait another month for this crap to be over. there you go. that is the "pros and cons." [ cheers and applause ] we'll be right back with "freestylin' with the roots!" what?! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ [ diana ] power was very important to me. we test-drove the camry, took it on the freeway, and it was just like -- this was the car for me. [ ryan ] it has stuff that guys like, like the rims and the sleekness to the body. and, then, had the bluetooth and the navigation that diana really wanted. [ diana ] and it was an se, s
." >> jimmy: pro, paul ryan will be in the audience trying to lend his support. con, joe biden will be in the audience trying to start a wave. [ laughter ] "joe, sit down. don't --" "boo! come on, guys. this section sucks." [ laughter ] pro, the first debate will be wednesday at 9:00 p.m. con, right after an all-new "guys with kids," every wednesday at 8:30 only on nbc. ♪ "from the zany mind of jimmy fallon." and finally, pro, all the...
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there's new pe from paul ryan that has surfaced. here's ryan talking about peopl assistance. here it is. >> before too ng, would become society we were never tended to be. we could become a society whe americans are takers and not makers, % of amerins want the american dream.theyelieve i idea. only 30% wt the lfare ste. >> doesn't had this show the american people what rney and ryan thinkbout struggling americans? >> absolutel my favorite ing is mitt romneye h i hope that mitt romney e gets a chance to elegantly state what he said outh47% of the erican peot caring enough to takeesponsibily r their own situations i life.d i think, you kw,hat that what tsuspecteabout or romney and paul ryan and th is they don't really care aut the middle class in this country. they a not really concned about and they certainly don un wharstandit's like to work hard and try to g ahe in the country. to play by the rules, but have a different set of rules for pele like s that's whathat tape did. it crystallized fopele that thiss not a grp that believes in middle economic recovery. it's all about t
there's new pe from paul ryan that has surfaced. here's ryan talking about peopl assistance. here it is. >> before too ng, would become society we were never tended to be. we could become a society whe americans are takers and not makers, % of amerins want the american dream.theyelieve i idea. only 30% wt the lfare ste. >> doesn't had this show the american people what rney and ryan thinkbout struggling americans? >> absolutel my favorite ing is mitt romneye h i hope that mitt...
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don't even go there, paul ryan. that straight to camera shot, you saw both campaigns come out with ads. president obama is a much better speaker. he's more direct and communicates warmth and honesty. from mitt romney it seems hollow. if i were the romney campaign, i would stay with the fix it thing. do everything short of coming out with mops and brooms and talk about the economy. whenever they try to play the genuine american attack, it never works for them. they fall flat and it always rings hollow. >> alex, richard, great to have you with us on "the ed show." >>> coming up, the obama campaign released a new ad hammering mitt romney for outsourcing jobs to a chinese company with sweat shop conditions during his time at bain capital. sherrod brown will be joining me on that and other issues. >>> and billionaires are getting antsy about the possibility of president obama's reelection. and they are starting to whine big time. stay tuned. you're watching "the ed show." >>> welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for wat
don't even go there, paul ryan. that straight to camera shot, you saw both campaigns come out with ads. president obama is a much better speaker. he's more direct and communicates warmth and honesty. from mitt romney it seems hollow. if i were the romney campaign, i would stay with the fix it thing. do everything short of coming out with mops and brooms and talk about the economy. whenever they try to play the genuine american attack, it never works for them. they fall flat and it always rings...
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ryan of course completely missed that opportunity. and i think really solidified the romney/ryan view of the 47%. let's listen to that question and answer. >> we have 47% of the people of the united states paying no taxes. federal income tax. is there any way that this 47% can pay a nominal fee or something so they feel that they have small ownership in the government and maybe they won't take all the handouts so readily. >> i've got an idea. let's help them get jobs so they can get a good paycheck so then they're good taxpayers. this is the point that mitt and i have been trying to make. and sometimes the point doesn't get made the right way. we don't want a stagnant economy that fosters dependency. >> sometimes the point doesn't get made the right way. jonathan, he sure didn't make it the right way. he says about the 47%, let's help them get jobs. so he thinks the 85-year-old widow who does not pay federal income tax needs to get a job. this was a chance for him to reach out, identify that 47%, and show that he knows what they are s
ryan of course completely missed that opportunity. and i think really solidified the romney/ryan view of the 47%. let's listen to that question and answer. >> we have 47% of the people of the united states paying no taxes. federal income tax. is there any way that this 47% can pay a nominal fee or something so they feel that they have small ownership in the government and maybe they won't take all the handouts so readily. >> i've got an idea. let's help them get jobs so they can get...
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. >> paul ryan talked about it. he says as conservatives, we are used to media bias. but the desperation of the mainstream media to re-elect barack obama has reached levels we have not seen before. i worry very much that the kind of covering up of hugely important issues, an american ambassador killed in a terror attack that the administration covered up, after it ignored that the threats that he was reporting back to washington. that's very, very serious. when have you a media that won't cover these stories, it begins to really damage, i think, the functioning of our democracy. they have an important role to play and they have abdicalletted responsibility because they have a tingle up their leg over barack obama. >> sean: i think they are the willing accomplices. i think that obama is laughing his ass off because he knows he can manipulate them and get them to say anything he wants. it's fascinating. >> and dangerous. >> sean: liz cheney, thank you. >> thank you. >> sean: coming up next, now that she is not on the campaign trail, calista gingrich is going to make sur
. >> paul ryan talked about it. he says as conservatives, we are used to media bias. but the desperation of the mainstream media to re-elect barack obama has reached levels we have not seen before. i worry very much that the kind of covering up of hugely important issues, an american ambassador killed in a terror attack that the administration covered up, after it ignored that the threats that he was reporting back to washington. that's very, very serious. when have you a media that won't...
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ryan's campaign says only 30% want the welfare state, just as it is every day on the campaign trail, and the size trail, and so let's talk about this, whether these videos amount to anything. and political analyst roland martin, and red state.com and professor boise watkins of syracuse university. eric, on the obama tape, to you, what is the significance of it? >> the circumstances of it is the media. it was the media that portrayed barack obama as a post racial president. the media has portrayed barack obama above the political rhetoric that both -- here is barack obama telling a black crowd basically they aren't part of the american community. he said florida was with hurricane andrew, and with hurricane katrina it wasn't. the facts simply weren't true, hurricane katrina got $110 billion to the gulf coast. well more than was spent in new york, with the stafford exemption. additional grant for the federal government. had a white politician done this to a white crowd crowd, saying a black president was denying funds to a white section of the country as not part of the community, the
ryan's campaign says only 30% want the welfare state, just as it is every day on the campaign trail, and the size trail, and so let's talk about this, whether these videos amount to anything. and political analyst roland martin, and red state.com and professor boise watkins of syracuse university. eric, on the obama tape, to you, what is the significance of it? >> the circumstances of it is the media. it was the media that portrayed barack obama as a post racial president. the media has...